I do believe Tim might possibly be posting the new scans of the visualize so you can his web site, and can post that link to the fresh newsgroup.

Re: Wingfield Applications-of-Palms

connections of one’s participants, (the new Wingfields were researched fairly well, and even with my typo on the Howard loved ones, I actually do feel the pedigree truthfully annotated here in RI) >>

I am not sure it is an accurate declaration. Really does your book target the fresh new age bracket *prior* in order to John Russell whom e mom and dad out-of E Russell which meters Sir Robert Wingfield ?

Re: ? Comyn wife regarding Malise

I have the next to fill out some of the holes your let you know forthe higher-grand-parents out of Reginald le Cheyne. Among the many primaryadditions stems from his paternal granny (NN in your article) havingbeen Mary de Moravia (als de Moray), sis and coheiress of Freskinde Moravia from Duffus (their own moms and dads Walter de Moravia and Euphemia ofRoss arrive below). You’ve got the question as to their maternalgrandmother: We hold she is actually Joanna de Menteith, next partner off Malise,Earl off Strathearn. This will at the very least promote a close explanationfor Joanna’s child Helen from Strathearn (wife successively ofReginald ce Cheyne Shaki brides, the daddy, and of Sir David de- Graham) beingnamed to have Helen de- Menteith, sibling off Joanna and you can partner out-of Sir ColinCampbell off Lochow (d. bef Get 1343).

Unfortunately, I believe discover extra holes into the Muriel Keith’sancestry (discover less than). On both improvements advised on the tablesbelow, please recommend of every detailed conflicts, or what documentationmight mean any error indexed.

We have holes both in ancestries, however, fiercely for the reason that away from Reginald.Having Muriel Keith, her high-grand-parents We show1 William de Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton

I’m not aware of people documents supporting the identity of this companion given that Barbara Seton. When you yourself have noted one, excite indicates.

step three Alexander de Synton4 NN5 Alexander away from /Fraser/ Chamberlain of Scotland d step three Aug 13326 Mary de- Brus, Baroness /Fraser/

Sir Alexander Fraser hitched Mary Bruce (or de- Brus), and had good son John recognized as ‘nepos’ away from Robert _the_Bruce. Which child is a more youthful John, although not, and not his heir. John Fraser, later lord away from Aboyne, is actually the young buck out-of a first relationships (it partner unknown; I have so it towards the power away from Andrew MacEwen).

step three Walter de- Moravia (son away from Hugh de Moravia, and Annabela of Fife) cuatro Euphemia off Ross (dau. off Fearchar, initially Earl regarding Ross and NN deBrus)

5 Malise, sixth Earl out-of /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN perhaps Comyn d aft 13097 Sir John de Menteith (young buck from Walter Stewart, Elizabeth out of Menteith and you may

The fresh consanguinity anywhere between Muriel Keith and you will Reginald le Cheyne -known to was basically a great-grandson away from Malise, Earl out of Strathearn (d.1312) – ‘s the best facts (if secondary) why these a couple of individualshad one or more ancestor/ancestress in accordance.

You will find holes both in ancestries, however, ferociously in that of Reginald.Having Muriel Keith, her higher-grandparents We show1 William de- Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton3 Alexander de- Synton4 NN5 Alexander regarding /Fraser/ Chamberlain off Scotland d step three Aug 13326 Mary de Brus, Baroness /Fraser/7 NN Fraser8 NN

Having Reginald ce Cheney it’s sparse1 NN Cheney , dos NN, step three NN, 4 NN5 Malise, sixth Earl from /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN perhaps Comyn d aft 13097 and 8 NN

Re: Agnes Beler

Woodford, early 15the century, within the Leicestershire. Age are the d Villiers and you can Agnes Beler. Today, I would like to connect Agnes so you can Sir Roger Beler, killed from the Eustace de Folville, but I can not select any information regarding their particular. Normally anyone help?